Man dies after hunting accident in Africa

http://news.iafrica.com/sa/871613.html
Mon, 22 Jul 2013 1:11 PM

A man who was accidentally shot in the head during a hunting trip in Limpopo has died in hospital.

Juan-Pierre Kleingeld (24) died on Monday morning after being in a coma for more than a week, Die Beeld reported.

Kleingeld was shot in the head while hunting with some friend on the farm, Alldays, in Limpopo. Kleingeld had been driving a bakkie during the hunt when he was shot.

According to Die Beeld, one of his friends – who was standing at the back of the bakkie – accidentally discharged his hunting rifle. Kleingeld was struck in the head.

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95 thoughts on “Man dies after hunting accident in Africa

      • Oh dear. I clearly didn’t read the name of this blog!!! Now I am not so shocked by your comments and lack of empathy for MY loss of a close friend! What did you say about karma?!

        I am not personally a hunter – in fact if you read my blog, I have written a couple posts on animal abuse in Mozambique and feel very strongly about wildlife preservation and fight vehemently against any form of animal abuse.

        But since this is an anti hunting blog – and judging by your strong opinions – assuming you are ALL in the loop with Africa’s complex wildlife problems – I am curious to know where you stand when it comes to culling? (My friend died in a culling accident!) What are your solutions?

        PS – I know you hate animal killers, but it really does put you in a good light when someone says they have a lost a friend and you fire back with your hate speech.

      • Since you don’t hunt/kill animals, then I am sorry for you that you lost a friend. Culling is unnecessary and backfires more often than not. What is needed is a balanced predator/prey relationship. Kind of like if you are over-run with mice, you don’t have enough cats. Just transfer that thinking to the wild. Find out what animals used to be there and restore them. Wolves are far better wildlife managers than humans. Wolves take the sick and the weak from the prey population, leaving the strong, healthy ones to breed. Humans do the opposite. Humans are not here to manage animals,we are animals and we do a horrible job at manageing ourselves and just as bad trying to manage animals. For example of supreme ignorance in American history… first the settlers wiped out the buffalo for profit and to starve out the natives. The natives were killed or put on reservations and their land stolen. Starving and freezing, they mostly submitted. They had lived in harmony with nature for fifteen thousand years. The whites moved in and tore up the virgin buffalo grass with plows. The government paid a bounty to kill wolves and soon nearly all the wolves were dead. The coyotes moved in to the wolves territory. So a price was put on coyotes too. Soon their numbers were deminished radically. The huge farm equipment tore up the land in this high plains near desert area and a drought caused the crops to fail and then came the dust bowl. Nothing grew. Without predators, jack rabbits bred out of control. Tens of thousands swarmed the farms like locusts. With nothing to eat, they ate bark off fence posts! They ate the underground root systems. That was the last straw, the topsoil took flight in great dust storms never seen before, that blocked out the sun. Topsoil was found over 2000 miles away in cities on the east coast, even on ships far out to sea! People died, their children died. Most families headed west and lived in shanty towns along the roadside, hoping to pick fruit in California. This was during the Great Depression. Finally it rained but banks had foreclosed and the gov’t bought up most of the devistated land. People were homeless and called ‘Okies’ and were unwanted. these same lands are back in use, leased to ranchers or farmers or those evil fracking companies. No lessons were learned. The wolves are again being slaughtered to death by trophy hunters, rednecks and the gov’t’s Wildlife services. Coyotes, too. These are the same idiots in denial of global warming. It’s politics as usual. If you find any of this confusing, please ask, I will be happy to explain.

      • Hi Melody, thank you for your reply. I have a posted a reply to your comment further down on this page. Please check it out. I see this is a very passionate group of people – wouldn’t it be great for all this energy and passion to protect animals to be used in constructive manner!

      • I am immensely curious as to what species of wild animals in Africa are truly in need of culling: elephants? rhinos? lions? cheetah? Cape hunting dogs? baboons? what exactly?? The last I heard the wild populations of all these African wild animals are crashing, some being literally in free-fall. When we hear about the “need” for culling various native wild animals in North America, whether it be wolves or coyotes or bison or seals or black bears or deer, those with half-a-brain recognize it for what it is: another BS rationalization, with little scientific basis, for continued recreational or pecuniary-gain killing of wildlife. Wildlife that today occupies but a tiny fraction of its former range on this continent but still, allegedly, forever in need of further “culling.” So, what would be more compelling about this same excuse in the African context?

    • You may believe universally that respect and empathy should just be given due to one’s title, but take it from those who get the short end of the stick (IE the victims). My empathy is reserved for the innocent, not someone who couldn’t let go of their false-pride based primal behavior. But this issue concerning non-humans goes back to people deciding what others deserve. About people wanting what they don’t deserve. About people thinking they run this world no matter what. See I hate a certain demographic of the US, even if I don’t know them I still know what they can do. I’ve seen people shoot large predators just for being in the area, just being around. I saw sportsmen take grinning photos of innocent life because they feel like, and they can because they’re human. So I hate “sportsmen” on site. I’m not going to respect anyone over a title, or who dies at their hands, like innocent people dying is more evil than innocent non-humans biting the bullet. ##$#! people always wanting their respect like they deserve it for free.

      • Exactly how I feel. We must grieve some reprehensible human who goes out to kill a sentient being as if human is more important. If we do not have empathy for these humans who die in their killing fields we have failed our humanity?

    • Heads up friends, Miss African Queen who wants everybody to think that butter wouldn’t melt her mouth she all sugar and spice and everything nice went on Girl for Animal Liberation post and showed her true colors and posted AWE.SOME minus the 🙂 check out her post. I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m hoping the baboons kidnap her and make her there Queen and then when the palm oil trees take over everything she can die alongside the baboons and all of the other wildlife that’s being destroyed because they’re tearing down the Forrest to plant palm oil trees

      • I did find the blog of Africa after some searching. She is a chef-or was- and posts beautiful pictures of where she lives in Africa. She nibbles on pork and cheese whilst sipping a dainty glass of red. And all this time I thought she was conversant in wildlife biology.

      • On this post you your comment about the hunter being killed along with everybody else has pissed off Africa far and wide so she went on your post where you were talking about your ex and she put awe.some being a smartass she’s upset that everybody is being so cold hearted when you get the time to read all her comments on this post you will understand what’s going on

  1. I’d be a wee bit careful celebrating someone’s death though. Wouldn’t want us to come across as psychopaths.

    • I bet you’d retract that statement being using on those of us who gathered at the white house chanting “USA!” the day Osama was killed. Evil people need to die, it’s just the way things are. It doesn’t matter what evil they were partaking for one form of evil is not greater or less than another form of evil.

      • We are not the psychopaths who get “thrills” out of killing. The death was done onto themselves and I could care less. As my personalized T-shirt says “I love harvested hunters, one less psychopath in the forest” hehehe.

      • I think Rory was just joking about psychopaths. We all know who the real psychos are-the serial animal killers. And when the hunter meets his maker riding shot gun on a bullet we can only rejoice. Of course these idiots do it to themselves-carried out in body bags every year. Long live the animals!

  2. Delighted is not the right word when I read this 😀
    Fan-Bloody-Tastic 😀
    More of the same would be good !

  3. I was going to have a posting party here this summer but my legs and feet are in too much pain now, must wait to see the doctor tomorrow. Sucks to get old! I want to get out there and post all 68 acres NO HUNTING, NO TRAPPING! Wildlife photographers welcome! 🙂

  4. Any “complex wildlife problems” will be entirely the result of our killing and meddling. The solution to these problems? Leave the animals the FUCK alone.

  5. IN REPLY TO MELODY:

    Thank you for your reply Melody and for being sensitive to someone’s loss. I would hate for the family of this young man to read some of these comments….even though I understand how the commenter’s feel about killing animals.

    I understand everything you have written and from what you tell me, I see how it is possible that a balanced predator/prey situation in America could work….although I have never been there and therefore don’t feel qualified to comment any further on America’s situation.

    Africa is complex. There is no easy, straightforward solution. Space is a big problem for most wild animals here. Elephants, for instance, have huge territories. Have you seen what a single elephant does to a small area? The entire environment is changed – from forest to savannah in a matter of years if they are confined – which they are! And how do you think that affects other species in the same restricted territory? I wish it was a simple case of putting a few extra prides of lion in the park, but elephant are much bigger than lions! And crocs – millions of them on top of the food chain, exploding with numbers. How do you think this affects the other species sharing the same territory? Yes, it is all because of people – but whether you like it or not, the problem is there. We don’t have enough space for the number of elephants and crocodiles (for example)…and believe me, that breaks my heart! I love these animals! But we must find a way – relevant to this continent – to protect what we’ve still got.

    Also, in Africa – hunters are not the problem for waning numbers of species. Poachers are. And the problem with poachers is that they are not killing out of enjoyment, they are doing it to stave off hunger. Except for a few of the Chinese – NOTE FEW, NOT ALL – who believe rhino horn makes their penises work bigger and better. EDUCATION, INVESTMENT AND EMPLOYMENT IS KEY TO SAVING WILDLIFE IN AFRICA. You tell a father with a starving family not to hunt, not to feed their family….well, I don’t know judging by the commenter’s on this blog, they might enjoy that!

    And on that note – EXCLUDING YOU MELODY – there is a way to conduct oneself if you are SERIOUS about wanting to make a difference. Because honestly – while I adore animals and could never in my life get an ounce of enjoyment out of hunting – the ONLY thing this post did for me, was piss me off and disgust me. So I ask, are these people really wanting to make a difference or are they just a bunch of hostile, unfeeling idiots wanting a ra, ra session!

    I wish you all the best – your constructive approach in this post is refreshing.

    • Humanism? No. Your comments exemplify why I say that. The “hunter” was shot by another “hunter,” not by an animal advocate!
      You talk of “culling” in such a benevolent seeming way, when culling is nothing more than violently wiping out animals for the convenience of, because of the imbalances created by…people. Nature takes care of its own balance when left alone long-term by people’s weird, destructive activities.
      You talk of nature and animals as if they’re our property, ours to “manage” when we can hardly even manage ourselves. No, nature’s animals are not “ours,” except as in ours to cherish and respect enough to know they answer to, and are vital to the natural order, thus to people’s survival as well.
      One example: Even the humble worm serves an impressive purpose. Without earthworms to create fertile soil, we’d die off before long… without humans on Earth, everyone else would live on and thrive better than ever. Red worms can compost our garbage and thereby cut down on waste accumulation and provide useful fertilizer at the same time. While people primarily take, use, kill, and attempt in a fumbling, cruel and destructive way to “manage” nature.
      And people who cannot afford kids should think twice, long and hard, before bringing any into this world, not seek out lucrative hobbies in abusing & killing animals in order to support those kids.

      • Laura – please read my comment again. I blame humans just as much as you do. I know it’s a total balls up. And I am sorry if I came across like I own the wild life in Africa or something – although I am not quite sure how! I am simply stating what the current African problems are. I – note – do not choose them! I wish I could convert the whole of Africa into a game reserve, that would be wonderful! It’s about action Laura. Being on the ground, HERE IN AFRICA. It’s about making people care about wildlife.

        And for sure – people should not have children if they cannot afford them. While you were writing your comment, know that there are thousands of us here who are trying to change that mindset. Only the people having 10 kids each don’t have a computer at home and are not reading your comments. Do something. Make a difference. Here.

      • @Africa: Please see my reply below to Denderah which is to you as well; I wasn’t trying to talk behind your back; was a bit annoyed after reading through this entire thread.
        Now I’m supposed to come to Africa and implement a method to stop poor Africans from having kids because my comments are just worthless hypocritical nonsense otherwise? Ok, I’m on my way since I’ve got NO life, loved ones, or serious concerns here where I am, and since I, as opposed to YOU who lives there, must implement the solution to Africa’s problems or say not one more word about anything that happens there! 😉
        Seriously, we deal with what we can and the grief is far too much.

      • And we do not need cullers. I do not have one iota of feeling for the young stupid man who lost his life. As Laura said…nature takes care of itself if left alone. I have seen wildlife culling first hand-it is called Direct Reduction. High powered rifles and mow down everything-leave the dead bodies to rot where they fall. Are you pissed off and disgusted by this blog post Melody? How dainty mannered you are.

      • I wouldn’t even say that, Most of us here “hate” those who cause harm to what has done us no harm, no pain, no abject misery, or wanton destruction (IE non-humans).

      • We deal with what we can and the grief is far too much. Yes indeed that says it well! And the helpless anger is far too much.

    • Thank you. I was raised by the ‘neighborhood crazy cat lady’ and her parents. I rescue animals as do all of my sisters, although they stick to domestic pets. I take in wolves/wolfdogs and elderly dogs of dying veterans so that both may die in peace. One sister rescues chickens and the other two rescue dogs and cats. In my work, if I could not treat others as I prefer to be treated I am not being a responsible grandmother to my grandkids or other peoples. It is the future generations that they will teach and I hope they remember what I teach them. I also represent wolves, who can’t speak for themselves. What I say reflects on my family, my tribe, my town and state and my country as well. Still, we all need to vent and Jim gives this blog to do so, within reason. My friends here are very good and well educated people with huge love for animals. Most are vegans and some rescue animals. None are hunters and the only things we shoot are photographs with our cameras. Nearly all hunters are seen as poachers here. There are rare instances where an animal is dying in horrible pain from incurable disease or severe wounds, compound fractures for example, where given no choice, I would put the animal down to keep it from dying in pain. Nothing would go to waste and the animal would be thanked for feeding the wolves, for it’s warm fur etc. It is an honor to teach traditional ways. It is also an honor to share my home with sacred a imals. I know they heal me as much as I heal them. You need to heal from your loss and anger. Look to animals to help you with that as you help them. As for your situation in Africa, the answers here are the same there. If people have kids who are starving, there needs to be a surplus or donated food program to serve the very poor people. Perhaps they can get food like rice and beans by signing a promise never to poach again? Maybe they can be given a few fruit tree seedlings as a reward for a new lifestyle change and double the trees for every poacher they turn in? Good luck, Melody

  6. You are right on Dwayne…my mistake. I get all frothy when I think of human hunters. But I do not much mind hunters of humans.

      • Hey Denderah, just had to say everyone who knows me totally got a good belly laugh when you called me dainty! Being diplomatic brings people to our cause. I am not diplomatic with trophy hunters, I just say ‘are you gonna shoot and stuff your dog and hang him on the wall? They look at me horrified. Then I say, now you know how I feel about what you do. It either changes their ways or not but I am not taking bets!

      • I am not very diplomatic either Melody when it comes to hunters. Sorry I called you dainty.

  7. Don’t worry Melody – I don’t think she read the post correctly, I think she was aiming the ‘dainty’ comment at me!! And yes Denderah – I am mourning the loss of a close friend. I AM feeling ‘dainty’ about it. I think you would too if you lost someone close. But I am glad this post has generated a fair amount of interest. I have heard via friends in America that there is a MAMMOTH hunting culture there and I support your anti-hunting campaign.

    However, this post has highlighted that so many folk know absolutely nothing about Africa and the challenges it faces! Not one of you have offered a relevant solution. And maybe that’s because you don’t even know what the problems are. We’re all fighting for the same thing, the survival of species!!!

      • Okay. But first, let me reiterate that I have never been to America and my comments are in relation to finding solutions in Africa.

        A good place to start is with the Gorongosa National park in Mozambique; a park – and country – that was ravaged by 16 years of guerilla war. Read their story and their approach – they have a realistic approach when it comes to helping wildlife in Africa. You will find that in Africa, in order to protect wildlife, we must also work with the people. http://www.gorongosa.org/our-story

        Whether we like it or not – space for animals and natural environments is in short supply. Attaining more land to build more reserves is what really needs to be happening in Africa. And Gorongosa is just one organisation that is trying to do that. Needless to say, these reserves always will and do have humans as neighbours. People who are often solely focused on surviving from day to day and who have hunted to feed their families for centuries. Whether you agree with that or not, they do it! So if you really want to make a difference, get the Africans on board – instead of creating a dependence on your country through handouts – rather support Africa through education, employment and investment. If you can’t find the time to actually come out here yourself and actively get involved with programs tackling these problems – then another option for you is to fund a child’s education in Africa – like donating money for them to attend a conservation college – educating more kids in the way of wildlife. There are thousands of national parks in the 54 countries in Africa – although not sure if South Sudan is included in that figure – get in touch with them.

        Find out how you can help them. They are the most educated when it comes these issues. I can see how passionate you all are and once again, wouldn’t it be great to channel all this energy in a constructive manner.

    • Yes I meant the dainty comment for you. Sorry. I was not making fun of your loss. I did not like your culling ideas. I really should watch my snarky comments-my character flaw. And yes I have never been to Africa and cannot know nothing of it. I can still be repulsed by culling practices.

      • Africa far and wide…you come off arrogant. And you were calling people idiots here and defending culling. You said no one has offered a relevant solution to the problem in Africa. How the hell are we going to do that? Neither have you. You are not repulsed by the gunning down of herds of animals yet you get angry with comments on an animal blog. Such sensitivity-hat’s why I used the word dainty.

      • Denderah – I made the silly mistake of not reading the title of this blog when I responded to the post which tagged Africa. My first comment was a simple comment responding to the loss of a life.

        So when my simple and well-intentioned comment prompted a flow of hostile comments – it confused me at first but then it really began to upset me and it still does. How did you expect me to react – flip man, I’ve just lost a close friend – show a little sensitivity. Secondly, all this animosity fired at me and I’m actually a staunch animal lover…and Denderah, if you knew me at all, you would know how ridiculous your assumption is that I get enjoyment out of killing animals re the topic of culling. When I accused the commenter’s of being unfeeling idiots, I was relating to the lack of sensitivity in this situation. I know what all the campaigning is about – but I ask you, how do these types of comments affect those people who have lost their loved ones. Are we damned in your eyes simply by association?

        As for the wildlife issue in Africa. There is a shortage of land allocated to wildlife. And then there is the problem of poverty – which is directly linked to poaching. I have already offered suggestions on how to tackle that and please find the time to look at the link which will link you to the African-related approach of Gorongosa National Park to protecting wildlife. http://www.gorongosa.org/our-story

        I am sorry if you find me arrogant.

      • I new she was full of bullshit nobody that wants to save wildlife would be friends with a person who kills animals maybe they were friends with benefits but he would have to put a bag over that ugly face she would scare a starving native off of packed meat truck

      • Nancy you are funny and ever so naughty. Yes right from the first my instinct about Africa was correct.

    • My whole day will be spent visiting my neurologist and trying to scrounge food for the wolfdogs. I will read your info and try to respond tonight. In the mean time, you may want to contact my friend, Vincent at The Wolf Army. He is in South Africa and quite in touch with the wildlife issues there. The bottom line is that humans need to stop breeding like rabbits and need to be educated as to how animals suffer just so humans can hunt or eat them and sell their skins. Anyone who has ever watched a Cambodian family throw a tarp on the ground and butcher the cow, out in the driveway, with all their kids running through the blood and guts, munching on bits of raw organ meat, playing in the blood, while the elders cut up the cow into pieces…anybody with a heart should never be able to eat meat again after seeing up close what Ag-Gag laws now try to keep from sight. The cow farmer who saw that was traumatized for life. That was his old family milk cow and he had no Idea what these “cave people” would do to her. They are banned from his farm now but they will trick some other farmer. I suspect this happens more in Africa and with bush meat in public? I’m n ot totally ignorant of your situation. I like that on some reserves, poachers can be killed. But that doesn’t address their starving children or the ignorant mindset of the more children these women have, the luckier they think they might be that one of them will make something of himself and send home money. It comes down to education and teaching them to bond nature, not see it as a grocery store! Ttyl, must see doc now.

    • Nobody cares Miss African Queen we all know the government wants to keep the natives poor and stupid so you can have slaves to do your dirty work!!! In this country we freed the slaves during the Civil War !

  8. This is for Africa Far and Wide…
    I never said you enjoyed watching culling. I make the comment that I am very repulsed by this practice and the cullers have a methodical heartless take care of business way about them. I watched an elephant herd gunned down on a docu…The images play darkly in my mind now and forever. I worked for a government cull in Death Valley and they took care of business the same cold blooded way. Thank gawd I did not have to kill. They gunned down hundreds of burros. Anyway… These animal blogs are very sensitive and we have our angers and hurts.

    • Thank you for the reply Denderah – I can quite understand how you have been affected by seeing that. If anyone is interested in helping the wildlife situation in Africa through education, I will be happy to help and to put you in touch who here on the ground. I agree that animal blogs are sensitive! And am glad there has been such a big audience. Hopefully something positive can come out of this post. Have a good day, I am off to go and spend some ‘happy time’ with my family.

    • When we communicate on these comment boards with people we do not know we can come off differently than we like to be seen. You seemed arrogant to me but that is just my surface impression and my careless judgement. As far as showing some sensitivity for a person shot dead…well I really should. But I do not know you or the person who was killed. And they were involved with a terrible practice. It is too bad they lost their life. Feelings on animal blogs run high…we are sick to death of the killers

      • People like “Africa” like to tell strangers to do more constructive things with their time, to be more this, less that… bottom line: “You need to care about what I care about and donate energy, time & money to that in the way I see fit, or you are a worthless do-nothing who only likes to rant angrily online!”
        People who assume that are wrong, and their knee-jerk assumption that strangers do nothing constructive because they have strong opinions and state them is just an attempt to shut them up. Everyone has their own concerns, charities, activities, problems, etc,, that we deal with in our own way daily, so it is quite arrogant for someone to assume a superior position and tell us what we should be doing in her part of the world or that otherwise we should not speak about what happens there.
        We’re supposed to grieve or give a stranger condolences for the loss of a “hunter” friend, another total stranger, killed by another “hunter”??!
        Sorry to talk about you like that, “Africa,” but I needed to vent after reading ALL that up there.

  9. Thank you Laura because that is the way I still feel about my initial reaction to this article and to Africa. She keeps her cool. And that cool does come off as arrogant. She is educated and I am not-at least not in her subject. I tend to cower down. I usually do not like reading my comments after I have posted them. But I have an abrupt temper fueled by emotion. Not a good combination for dialogue with people I do not like. I still feel that I do not owe anyone who is a hunter any sympathy for their untimely death. They are gone and that is good. They will not be able to kill all the beings they set out to kill.

  10. Africa insulted us all. But her way figures in with the management procedures which can kill with impunity all that is surplus. As if animals are weeds in the garden. I’m getting myself worked up again so I better stop while I’m ahead.

  11. Wow, this whole blog subject really grew legs! Because I deal with death and dying humans I may not like, I have had to grow a thick skin to their ignorant statements about killing animals. I can cry into a pillow later. I comfort them while they are dying and care for their pets for free or dog food donations if they have it. If no one in the family takes the dog when the veteran dies, the dog becomes mine, either to rehome or keep here. Most all stay.
    I do not think Ms. Africa has had a reality check of financial lives of animal rights and rescue workers? Most of us will do all we can and then some to help animal and have to beg strangers for help to feed them once we have burned through our savings in vet bills over other people’s neglect of their animals. I know for fact people have been foreclosed on and made homeless with animals ‘livin’ in a van, down by the river’. I’m nearly there myself! I hope to apply for an irs 501(c)3 and 4 but I don’t have the cash even to do that.
    Everything I spent my whole life working for is eroding away like beach sand in a storm. And at the worst possible time- during the ‘wolf wars’, which I have spent my entire adult life rescuing mistreated, neglected wolves and old musher’s wolf-malamute sled dogs. I don’t have a budget because I have no income and social security screwed me out of my disability money because I didn’t get a doctor to sign a note for permanently disabled until the application time was up from my last job. The local food banks give me a day’s worth of dog food for one dog. Currently, I have six, one dog, five wolfdogs. Plus the barn cat. So I pick up the dented cans which would be put in the dump and I take that gallon freezer bag of gifted food and add with canned meats and soups and a little bread. I tell them it’s gourmet food and they love it. I eat leftover veggies and past dated stuff from the food bank. Bless it and eat it. That is life for this wolfdog rescuer! And I am not alone. Maybe a dose of my lifestyle would make a nice month-long internship and a view of the real America, not seen on tv for Mz. Africa? I would start her out posting my land for No hunting/trapping/snaring/culls or round-ups. Wildlife photographers welcome. Overnight camping in the beautiful Maine woods, free with a donation of 50# bag of dog food. That’s reality here and that stuff about the streets paved with gold, well, that’s just some travel agent’s wishful thinking. To quote Nanci Griffith: “It’s a hard life where ever you go.”

  12. Word to the wise: Once someone reveals him/herself as a condescending Humanist, you can be almost certain that he/she is a deceitful sociopathic narcissistic snob of the elated foodie variety who loves to live near but distinctly separate from…and thereby Lord over…the poor huddled masses and pretend to care about their “welfare” while taking advantage of them…same as they claim concern for animal “welfare” while munching on their abused slaughtered carcasses after stimulating those elitist palates with expensive aperitifs and later washing the gore down with more pricey digestifs of the alcoholic variety. To whom the shoe fits 🙂

  13. @Nancy
    Thanks for clarifying. I didn’t realize we had a troll in our midst. Thanks for the heads up.
    🙂

    As for the hunter who died. Well, had he not been there with the intent to KILL and INNOCENT ANIMAL, he would have not died. Nuff said, right? 🙂

    • You got it girlfriend always will have your back and your are right…Nuff said 🙂
      Jim is probably ready to pull his hair out he’s going to take our Internet privileges away soon!!!

      • LOL! Thank you! I need someone to have my back, after learning of my Ex’s betrayal.

        Anyway, I have noticed Jim is curiously quiet… I’ve been waiting for him to close the comments on this post. Ha-Ha!

        BTW, a stray cat, all skin and bones, showed up at my door tonight. I gave him a heart plate of wet and dry food. Poor thing. It’s no wonder I have 6 cats — because careless heartless assholes abandoned them. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

      • Sorry I’ve been so out of the loop lately. My mother fell and broke her hip on Monday and we’ve been spending a lot of time at the hospital lately. She’s on the mend now…

      • Jim, I am sorry your mother has to go through this, that’s a slow heal and for you trying to juggle everything she’s blessed to have you ! But your post entertained us as you can very well see. Its all Miss African Queens fault she started it all the trouble! We’re very very sorry 🙂

  14. yes it’s a shame the way animals are tossed out. My brother says the animals put a sign out if you’re lost homeless hurt nd hungry and go to Nancy’s ,there’s probably a sign at your place too one of these days I’m going to put up no vacancy sign out if I ever find it !!!
    PS. I just want to say I’m proud of you and its a privilege to get to know you so go tell your ex to go scratch:-)

    • Ha-Ha! Thanks Nancy. I had suspect there was a sign somewhere that says, “Lost? Abandoned? Need a meal? Go to Susan’s house… she has six cats and plenty of food.” 🙂

      And you as well Nancy. 🙂

      As for my Ex, because of his lies and deceit, he will NEVER see the cats we shared while married that are now living exclusively with me — never. He used to come over and visit them. Those privileges have been revoked! Ha-Ha!

      • @GAL: Good for you in being rid of a man who is bad for you! You and I are in somewhat similar situations, only mine’s a much younger “friend with benefits”…while the friendship is quite one-sided, so the “benefits” aren’t really needed by me. I finally had the will to say NO to him last night, despite the strong physical attraction…wow that can make a gullible twit out of me! Like yours and the cats, he loves my dogs’ company, and now he’ll have to do mostly without (but I do feel sorry for the dogs…they love him for some curious reason.)
        So Jim, you ready to close comments here yet? 😉

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