19 thoughts on “A Question of Human Ignorance

  1. Truth! ☺..animals are perfect ♥…humans are arrogant, selfish, self-centered, delusional, greedy and cruel..for starters…that’s why animals are my *heart* …and I’m a misanthrope☺

  2. Of course, we have to believe animals are stupid, unaware, insensate, and unclean if they’re domestic animals, and if they’re wild animals, we say they are wily, malevolent, and dangerous. We need to be blind to our own stupidity and arrogance and to build a chasm between us and all other species. Otherwise, we could not justify abusing and killing them as we do.

    Another misanthrope here (or maybe we’re just honest and clear-sighted).

  3. I am in good company here, obviously. It is not just “ignorance” by our species. It is total, blind arrogance, and the more I read about this Rogue Species’ initial presence on this planet, the more convinced I am that Homo was flawed from the beginning, and never really fit in. Every day, every week now, more destruction is happening, from the latest oil “spill” to the continued habitat & wildlife destruction, insane growth, wars & more, by this species.
    The last of the Grauer’s gorillas in Congo are barely hanging on with the wars around them, bush meat and hunting trade, and mining of the forests. Thankfully, brave souls are there from the Diane Fossey Gorilla Fund to try try to keep this small group from going extinct within ten years (or less). Among the other important non-humans in this fragile place are leopards, chimps, giant pangolins, elephants shrews. owl-faced monkeys, civets and golden cats. Many will be gone before ever really seen again. I imagine those of us on this blog will be saying our eulogies while most of our species continues what it is doing: its insane quest to devour what is left of Earth. I feel more alienated from this species every day, but am thankful for this company of mistanthropes.

    http://www.foranimals.org

    • I agree. We will be mourning the ones we killed, the ones we let slip away, and the ones we never even knew were here. I know I sent the following comments from Bradley Trevor Greive’s PRICELESS before, but it seems so appropriate to quote it again here. This will be our shame:

      For endangered species we are both their greatest enemy and their only hope.
      These wonderful creatures will not argue their case.
      They will not put up a fight.
      They will not beg for reprieve.
      They will not say goodbye.
      They will not cry out.
      They will just vanish.
      After after they are gone, there will be silence.
      And there will be stillness.
      And there will be empty places.
      And nothing you can do will change this.
      Nothing you can do will bring them back.

      • Sad and perfect truth…beautifully said…*tears*…I looked up this author…even reading the titles of his important works bring me such anger and sadness

      • I deleted a couple of comments yesterday from various people because I felt they were out of line and too targeted in their hatred. It’s one thing to rejoice when some trophy hunter (mass murderer of wildlife) dies, but you were suggesting that you’d be happy if readers here who think there are too many people on the planet should just off themselves (as if that drop in the bucket would solve the problem). As you probably know, this site does not allow comments from hunters or their apologists, that includes lurkers or trolls who hang around hoping to start something we don’t have time for.

      • To Really Small Farm: What is it you were trying to say? Do you believe that there are too many humans, doing too many terrible things?

  4. Really Small Farm I agree with you. I have coarsened myself reading and commenting on animal blogs. They can be very addictive. These places rejoice in gore as long as it is the death of a human. I am sorry I have been part of it. I am religious and that is an anathema here. And I do want to believe in the goodness of human kind. But hanging around these kinds of places will give people a nasty heart. Jim will probably delete this. But I am not coming back.

    • No one is required to be here and I’ve heard from at least one dedicated wolf advocate who unfollowed this blog because of some of Dendra’s comments. Maybe she did develop a ‘nasty heart’ commenting on animal blogs. It’s as good an excuse as any.

      • I’m on the side of the innocents, therefore it seems morally justifiable to wish that some killers of animals–just like some killers of human animals–would die. Mass murderers who habitually kill women and children would leave the world a better place if they died right away, rather than living on to manipulate or harass other innocent people. Likewise, a sadistic Nazi death camp guard during the war is another example of someone I would’ve felt morally justified in wishing dead.

      • Small Farm, in reply to your being a “wolf advocate:” I know some who feel that wolves need to be “managed” and they believe in “wolf-friendly beef.” How do you feel about livestock grazing on public lands? Are you grazing livestock as well?

    • Wanting to believe in the goodness of human kind does not make it so. Yes, there are many compassionate and decent people out there. But there are many who are not, and the culture supports much of greed and meanness and harm we talk about. Some people do not like the comments. Others do not like to face up to the topics, especially if they want to maintain their faith in human nature.

  5. Small Farm and Denderah: The scientific method, which most of us ascribe to, posits that if you see the same on-going, predictably-monotonous phenomena happening over and over again (and if you are honest), you call a “spade a spade.” And the parallels between a case of cancer and what humanity is collectively doing to the Earth should be obvious to anyone with even the most rudimentary knowledge of oncology and ecology: a subset of resident cells (or organisms) undergoing uncontrolled growth and that have metastasized to every corner of the body (or planet), disrupting or destroying other tissues (or species), upsetting normal metabolic pathways (or natural cycles), and now threatening the very existence of the organism (or planetary ecosystem) itself. In short, Mother Earth is suffering with a case of cancer and that cancer is known as humanity. And who doesn’t want to help their mother?

    Don’t blame Jim, or other like-minded bloggers, for reporting facts culled from the media that you find distasteful. Don’t criticize the messenger because he fails to deliver a sufficiently uplifting, sugar-frosted message.

    So, go ahead and mourn the death of individual cancer cells (read hunters, trappers, and anglers) if you like, but please don’t try and dissuade me or others from celebrating each death as a tiny victory. Each cancer cell that dies, young or old, means that a few healthy cells (i.e., other animal species) get a chance to live, unmolested, a little while longer. Sentimentality, religiosity, anthropocentrism, and foolishness seemingly prevents you from recognizing that you don’t re- educate or cajole or rehabilitate cancer cells. You get rid of them as expeditiously as possible. In the case of Planet Earth we are probably already too late to save the patient, the extent of the malignancy now being beyond the capacity of anyone to contain; but whatever you do, please do not ask me to feel pity for the disease that is ravaging her!

  6. What I find despicable are those humans who know what is happening to non-human life, but continue to make excuses for Homo sapiens, using various Humanist ideology (as Geoff so well states), to minimize or even trivialize the suffering of these innocents.
    It is another insane coping mechanism by Homo sapiens to continue with The Denial. Just look at how many otherwise “decent” folk still give a blank stare when Global Climate Change/Disruption is mentioned, or when one brings up something about hunting: so many “good people” still swallow the deception of the need for “wildlife management, make excuses for hunting, or even condone it.
    No, the Rogue Species, is not wanted or needed on Planet Earth. The Earth, now in Hospice Mode, is doing her best to rid herself and her other beings from Cancer. So, if someone reads these comments, and finds them too much to take, too upsetting–tough. It won’t be long now, when your mouth will be hanging open in shock and awe, as you stand before the Edge of the Dying World.
    I, once again, praise my fellow misanthropes on this blog. The comfort I get from reading your comments is that I am not alone in my disgust, and that those of us who now understand, can continue to fight in whatever way we can, to help non-humans–to the very last.
    To the Humanists: Bury your heads in your delusion of The Goodness of Humans. Yes there are good individuals, but the species is corrupt, fatally flawed, and dangerous to the Earth. That is what is destroying this planet. Tell those dying & dead bodies washing up on the Santa Barbara beach (once again), that you “want to believe in the goodness of humans.”

    http://www.foranimals.org.

  7. Yes, some pretty graphic and unpleasant messages about hunters, but the anger is understandable. Calling hunting a “sport” is a misnomer. One of the contestants has virtually no chance at defense or participation, and the other contestant believes it is the only one who should be cheered. So recently when an elephant became the victor instead of the victim, there was a celebration that appeared unseemly to some readers of the news.

    When I think of the long history of human death dealing and the animal suffering involved, it is hard to be objective. We have often referred to wolf hunting in this blog. Just looking at history of that one animal’s relationship with human beings is horrifying and ugly. In Vicious, Jon Coleman describes wolf hunts in the plains as people moved in with cattle and sheep. The wolf hunts were conducted with a sadism that has been described as “fiendish.” Coleman describes wolves being set afire, torn apart upon by packs of dogs, dragged to death behind horses, poisoned, clubbed, trapped, and shot. They were captured and turned loose after being blinded or having their muzzles or penises wired to run off and die in prolonged agony. Other wolves succumbed from fractured spines and severed hamstrings. They all bore the pain from a hatred and fanaticism dredged up from some dark pit in the human psyche.

    People can mourn the death of hunters if they wish. Maybe they are too afraid to go against the instruction that we must not speak evil of the dead or give pain to their families. After reading multiple volumes on what happens to wolves, bear, cougars, bison, deer, and every other living being at the hands of hunters, I cannot and will not feel sympathy.

    NB: No, not all hunters are so sadistic. However, a few visits to the wolf hunting sites on the Internet and viewing the pictures of the grinning and triumphant hunters and the dead wolves, along with the gleeful discussions of the “gut shot,” will probably not arouse much enthusiasm from nonhunters.

  8. I somewhat disagree with the title of this post. To me there is no question of human ignorance and despicability. There is an absolute certainty.

    • You are right, Pamela. A species that systemically destroys the very Life support System of its home, causing mass extinctions, is arrogant, stupid, and fatally flawed.

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