New Mexico Taking Aim at Drone Use in Hunting

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Alaska, Colorado and Montana already have outlawed the use of drones in hunting, but some sportsmen groups and animal advocates are pushing to see that regulations are passed in every state to protect the concept of fair chase.

They argue the art of hunting should be based on skills and traditions that have been honed and passed down over generations, not technological advancements such as drones.

“Hunting an animal with your physical senses, with your eyes and your ears and even to a lesser extent your sense of smell, that puts you on fairly even ground with these animals that can see far better, hear far better and smell far better than we can,” said Joel Gay, a spokesman for the New Mexico Wildlife Federation.

Drones would simply take the challenge out of hunting and could lead to the sport becoming more exclusive, Gay and others said.

There’s only anecdotal evidence of drones being used for hunting, but the national group Backcountry Hunters and Anglers and the Humane Society of the United States both say they want to get ahead of the issue before it becomes a problem.

In New Mexico, the state Game Commission is set to vote this month on a proposal that would make it illegal to use drones to signal an animal’s location, to harass a game animal or to hunt a protected species observed from a drone within 48 hours.

All of that is already illegal if done from an aircraft. The proposal calls for redefining aircraft to include unmanned, remote-controlled drones.

Vermont is also considering changes to its hunting rules, while Idaho and Wisconsin have included prohibitions on the use of aircraft to hunt wildlife in existing regulations.

But there are some groups that don’t see the need to act quickly to regulate drone-assisted hunting.

Blake Henning, vice president of lands and conservation with the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, said he has yet to hear from the group’s more than 200,000 members about drone concerns.

“We’ve got all kinds of other things we’re trying to address,” he said.

Like helicopters and airplanes, Henning said drone-assisted hunting will undoubtedly have to be regulated at some point, but he noted that wildlife research could benefit from the technology.

From Nepal to South Africa, scientists are already using drones to monitor endangered species and to track poachers.

In the U.S., federal aviation regulators do not yet allow for the commercial use of drones, but the government is working on operational guidelines and has said that as many as 7,500 small commercial drones could be flying within five years of getting widespread access to U.S. skies.

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Proposal would shut down prairie chicken hunting in southwest Kansas

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SALT LAKE CITY — The Division of Wildlife Resources has proposed legalizing crow hunting in the state of Utah and adding fall turkey hunts and they want the public’s input.

The crow and turkey population has been steadily increasing throughout Utah, according to Division of Wildlife Resources spokesman, Mark Hadley. He said that the main focus for the DWR is to grow the wild turkey population throughout Utah. However, Hadley said that some areas throughout the state have such large numbers of turkeys that those regions have reached the carrying capacity that the habitat can sustain.

“In those areas, the turkeys are starting to come into conflict with people a little bit,” Hadley said. “We would like to start holding a fall turkey hunt in those areas where carrying capacity has been reached. The fall hunt is an effective way to help control turkey numbers.”

Hunters would be eligible for the spring and fall turkey hunts if they obtain permits for both.

“It’s an extra opportunity for hunters and at the same time, it gives us an extra way to try and control the turkey population in these areas,” he said.

Hadley said the DWR has also been trapping the turkeys living in overpopulated areas and transporting them to less populated regions around the state as a way to monitor the large numbers.

Legalizing the crow hunt was also proposed due to the large number of crows reported by biologists, Hadley said. The crows have contributed to the damage of fruit crops across the state, and Hadley said a hunt of the corvids would give hunters an equal opportunity that other hunters in surrounding states have.

“(A crow hunt will also) let hunters chip in and help out with some of the problems crows are causing here in the state,” Hadley said. “The Fish and Wildlife Services monitor the populations closely and they said there would be no problem with holding a crow hunt in Utah because there are plenty of crows and it would not hurt the population to do that.”

The Fish and Wildlife Services monitor the populations closely and they said there would be no problem with holding a crow hunt in Utah because there are plenty of crows and it would not hurt the population to do that.

–Mark Hadley, DWR

However, some members of the public are not supportive of the proposal. Dalyn Erickson-Marthaler, the executive director for the Wildlife Rehabilitation Center of Northern Utah, said she was appalled by the idea of crow hunting.

“They are an incredibly intelligent species,” Erickson-Marthaler said. “They have the ability to problem-solve and logic and have very close tight-knit family units. And you can’t eat them. So hunting them is kind of ridiculous in my mind. It’s very disturbing.”

Erickson-Marthaler said the Wildlife Rehabilitation Center rescues over 2,000 animal and bird species each year in Utah. She said 90 percent of the animals that are rescued were injured due to some kind human impact including bullet wounds, glue traps and being hit by vehicles. She said 80 percent of the animals rescued are bird species.

“Mother Nature has a way of regulating herself for the most part,” Erickson-Marthaler said. “You always see these waves and spikes in different animal populations. So this seems kind of normal to see a spike in crow population because we haven’t seen that in a long time. But by us interfering all the time, we create a rippling effect of other problems that arise.”

Hadley said members of the public are welcome to join the public meetings that are being held by the DWR regional advisory councils in each region of Utah. The meetings will begin on May 6 and the final decision about the proposal will be made in June.

“I really encourage people to come out to these public meetings if they would like to learn more and voice their opinions and let us know what you think about these ideas,” Hadley said.

People can also email the representative in their region if they are unable to attend the meetings.

Contributing: Dave Cawley

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SALT LAKE CITY — The Division of Wildlife Resources has proposed legalizing crow hunting in the state of Utah and adding fall turkey hunts and they want the public’s input.

The crow and turkey population has been steadily increasing throughout Utah, according to Division of Wildlife Resources spokesman, Mark Hadley. He said that the main focus for the DWR is to grow the wild turkey population throughout Utah. However, Hadley said that some areas throughout the state have such large numbers of turkeys that those regions have reached the carrying capacity that the habitat can sustain.

“In those areas, the turkeys are starting to come into conflict with people a little bit,” Hadley said. “We would like to start holding a fall turkey hunt in those areas where carrying capacity has been reached. The fall hunt is an effective way to help control turkey numbers.”

Hunters would be eligible for the spring and fall turkey hunts if they obtain permits for both.

“It’s an extra opportunity for hunters and at the same time, it gives us an extra way to try and control the turkey population in these areas,” he said.

Hadley said the DWR has also been trapping the turkeys living in overpopulated areas and transporting them to less populated regions around the state as a way to monitor the large numbers.

Legalizing the crow hunt was also proposed due to the large number of crows reported by biologists, Hadley said. The crows have contributed to the damage of fruit crops across the state, and Hadley said a hunt of the corvids would give hunters an equal opportunity that other hunters in surrounding states have.

“(A crow hunt will also) let hunters chip in and help out with some of the problems crows are causing here in the state,” Hadley said. “The Fish and Wildlife Services monitor the populations closely and they said there would be no problem with holding a crow hunt in Utah because there are plenty of crows and it would not hurt the population to do that.”

The Fish and Wildlife Services monitor the populations closely and they said there would be no problem with holding a crow hunt in Utah because there are plenty of crows and it would not hurt the population to do that.

–Mark Hadley, DWR

However, some members of the public are not supportive of the proposal. Dalyn Erickson-Marthaler, the executive director for the Wildlife Rehabilitation Center of Northern Utah, said she was appalled by the idea of crow hunting.

“They are an incredibly intelligent species,” Erickson-Marthaler said. “They have the ability to problem-solve and logic and have very close tight-knit family units. And you can’t eat them. So hunting them is kind of ridiculous in my mind. It’s very disturbing.”

Erickson-Marthaler said the Wildlife Rehabilitation Center rescues over 2,000 animal and bird species each year in Utah. She said 90 percent of the animals that are rescued were injured due to some kind human impact including bullet wounds, glue traps and being hit by vehicles. She said 80 percent of the animals rescued are bird species.

“Mother Nature has a way of regulating herself for the most part,” Erickson-Marthaler said. “You always see these waves and spikes in different animal populations. So this seems kind of normal to see a spike in crow population because we haven’t seen that in a long time. But by us interfering all the time, we create a rippling effect of other problems that arise.”

Hadley said members of the public are welcome to join the public meetings that are being held by the DWR regional advisory councils in each region of Utah. The meetings will begin on May 6 and the final decision about the proposal will be made in June.

“I really encourage people to come out to these public meetings if they would like to learn more and voice their opinions and let us know what you think about these ideas,” Hadley said.

People can also email the representative in their region if they are unable to attend the meetings.

Contributing: Dave Cawley

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SALT LAKE CITY — The Division of Wildlife Resources has proposed legalizing crow hunting in the state of Utah and adding fall turkey hunts and they want the public’s input.

The crow and turkey population has been steadily increasing throughout Utah, according to Division of Wildlife Resources spokesman, Mark Hadley. He said that the main focus for the DWR is to grow the wild turkey population throughout Utah. However, Hadley said that some areas throughout the state have such large numbers of turkeys that those regions have reached the carrying capacity that the habitat can sustain.

“In those areas, the turkeys are starting to come into conflict with people a little bit,” Hadley said. “We would like to start holding a fall turkey hunt in those areas where carrying capacity has been reached. The fall hunt is an effective way to help control turkey numbers.”

Hunters would be eligible for the spring and fall turkey hunts if they obtain permits for both.

“It’s an extra opportunity for hunters and at the same time, it gives us an extra way to try and control the turkey population in these areas,” he said.

Hadley said the DWR has also been trapping the turkeys living in overpopulated areas and transporting them to less populated regions around the state as a way to monitor the large numbers.

Legalizing the crow hunt was also proposed due to the large number of crows reported by biologists, Hadley said. The crows have contributed to the damage of fruit crops across the state, and Hadley said a hunt of the corvids would give hunters an equal opportunity that other hunters in surrounding states have.

“(A crow hunt will also) let hunters chip in and help out with some of the problems crows are causing here in the state,” Hadley said. “The Fish and Wildlife Services monitor the populations closely and they said there would be no problem with holding a crow hunt in Utah because there are plenty of crows and it would not hurt the population to do that.”

The Fish and Wildlife Services monitor the populations closely and they said there would be no problem with holding a crow hunt in Utah because there are plenty of crows and it would not hurt the population to do that.

–Mark Hadley, DWR

However, some members of the public are not supportive of the proposal. Dalyn Erickson-Marthaler, the executive director for the Wildlife Rehabilitation Center of Northern Utah, said she was appalled by the idea of crow hunting.

“They are an incredibly intelligent species,” Erickson-Marthaler said. “They have the ability to problem-solve and logic and have very close tight-knit family units. And you can’t eat them. So hunting them is kind of ridiculous in my mind. It’s very disturbing.”

Erickson-Marthaler said the Wildlife Rehabilitation Center rescues over 2,000 animal and bird species each year in Utah. She said 90 percent of the animals that are rescued were injured due to some kind human impact including bullet wounds, glue traps and being hit by vehicles. She said 80 percent of the animals rescued are bird species.

“Mother Nature has a way of regulating herself for the most part,” Erickson-Marthaler said. “You always see these waves and spikes in different animal populations. So this seems kind of normal to see a spike in crow population because we haven’t seen that in a long time. But by us interfering all the time, we create a rippling effect of other problems that arise.”

Hadley said members of the public are welcome to join the public meetings that are being held by the DWR regional advisory councils in each region of Utah. The meetings will begin on May 6 and the final decision about the proposal will be made in June.

“I really encourage people to come out to these public meetings if they would like to learn more and voice their opinions and let us know what you think about these ideas,” Hadley said.

People can also email the representative in their region if they are unable to attend the meetings.

Contributing: Dave Cawley

Read more at http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1288&sid=29693745#e0RWifiZULsoHWlJ.99

SALT LAKE CITY — The Division of Wildlife Resources has proposed legalizing crow hunting in the state of Utah and adding fall turkey hunts and they want the public’s input.

The crow and turkey population has been steadily increasing throughout Utah, according to Division of Wildlife Resources spokesman, Mark Hadley. He said that the main focus for the DWR is to grow the wild turkey population throughout Utah. However, Hadley said that some areas throughout the state have such large numbers of turkeys that those regions have reached the carrying capacity that the habitat can sustain.

“In those areas, the turkeys are starting to come into conflict with people a little bit,” Hadley said. “We would like to start holding a fall turkey hunt in those areas where carrying capacity has been reached. The fall hunt is an effective way to help control turkey numbers.”

Hunters would be eligible for the spring and fall turkey hunts if they obtain permits for both.

“It’s an extra opportunity for hunters and at the same time, it gives us an extra way to try and control the turkey population in these areas,” he said.

Hadley said the DWR has also been trapping the turkeys living in overpopulated areas and transporting them to less populated regions around the state as a way to monitor the large numbers.

Legalizing the crow hunt was also proposed due to the large number of crows reported by biologists, Hadley said. The crows have contributed to the damage of fruit crops across the state, and Hadley said a hunt of the corvids would give hunters an equal opportunity that other hunters in surrounding states have.

“(A crow hunt will also) let hunters chip in and help out with some of the problems crows are causing here in the state,” Hadley said. “The Fish and Wildlife Services monitor the populations closely and they said there would be no problem with holding a crow hunt in Utah because there are plenty of crows and it would not hurt the population to do that.”

The Fish and Wildlife Services monitor the populations closely and they said there would be no problem with holding a crow hunt in Utah because there are plenty of crows and it would not hurt the population to do that.

–Mark Hadley, DWR

However, some members of the public are not supportive of the proposal. Dalyn Erickson-Marthaler, the executive director for the Wildlife Rehabilitation Center of Northern Utah, said she was appalled by the idea of crow hunting.

“They are an incredibly intelligent species,” Erickson-Marthaler said. “They have the ability to problem-solve and logic and have very close tight-knit family units. And you can’t eat them. So hunting them is kind of ridiculous in my mind. It’s very disturbing.”

Erickson-Marthaler said the Wildlife Rehabilitation Center rescues over 2,000 animal and bird species each year in Utah. She said 90 percent of the animals that are rescued were injured due to some kind human impact including bullet wounds, glue traps and being hit by vehicles. She said 80 percent of the animals rescued are bird species.

“Mother Nature has a way of regulating herself for the most part,” Erickson-Marthaler said. “You always see these waves and spikes in different animal populations. So this seems kind of normal to see a spike in crow population because we haven’t seen that in a long time. But by us interfering all the time, we create a rippling effect of other problems that arise.”

Hadley said members of the public are welcome to join the public meetings that are being held by the DWR regional advisory councils in each region of Utah. The meetings will begin on May 6 and the final decision about the proposal will be made in June.

“I really encourage people to come out to these public meetings if they would like to learn more and voice their opinions and let us know what you think about these ideas,” Hadley said.

People can also email the representative in their region if they are unable to attend the meetings.

Contributing: Dave Cawley
Read more at http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1288&sid=29693745#e0RWifiZULsoHWlJ.99

April 29, 2014

— State wildlife officials have proposed shutting down prairie chicken hunting in southwest Kansas.

The action is being taken to comply with a recent federal listing of the lesser prairie chicken as a “threatened” species, Christopher Tymeson, chief legal counsel for the Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks and Tourism, said Tuesday.

There is currently a prairie chicken hunting season and while the target is the more abundant greater prairie chicken, sometimes lesser prairie chickens, which are smaller than greater prairie chickens, end up being killed, Tymeson said.

Hunters kill fewer than 100 lesser prairie chickens each year, he said. But to try to ensure no lesser prairie chickens are killed in hunting, the agency is proposing closing down the prairie chicken hunting season in southwest Kansas, covering an area of all or part of 28 counties. That is where most lesser prairie chickens are found in Kansas. Currently, the season runs from the third Wednesday in November until Dec. 31.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has declared the lesser prairie chicken a threatened species because of an alarming drop off in the bird’s population.

Once abundant across Kansas, Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Colorado, the lesser prairie chicken’s grassland habitat has been reduced by 84 percent, and in 2013, the population fell to a record low of fewer than 18,000 birds, which was nearly a 50 percent reduction from 2012, according to Fish and Wildlife.

But state officials, led by Gov. Sam Brownback, have filed a lawsuit against Fish and Wildlife to take the bird off the threatened list.

And legislators are working on a bill aimed at blocking federal officials from enforcing regulations associated with the threatened listing.

Tymeson said the proposed closing prairie chicken hunting in southwest Kansas will be decided by the KDWPT Commission in June.

More states working to protect right to hunt

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Fitzgerald Cecilio – 4E Sports Reporter

Jack, AL, United States (4E Sports) – The Alabama Dog Hunters Association, headed by Don Knight, plans to court its 10,000 members to back a proposed amendment that would enshrine the right to “hunt, fish and harvest wildlife” in the state’s constitution.

Knight is worried that animal-rights groups around the country are intent on restricting his cherished pastime by pushing measures that, for instance, would forbid the use of dogs to pursue game.

“They’re just nipping away at it any way they can,” said Knight.

Both chambers of the state legislature voted overwhelmingly earlier this spring to place the question on the November ballot. The effort, if it succeeds, would strengthen an amendment passed in 1996.

Similar efforts, which have been promoted by the National Rifle Association and sportsmen’s groups in recent years, are unfolding in eight other states, while 17, including Alabama, already have such constitutional guarantees.

A proposed amendment to create a constitutional right to hunt and fish also will appear on the November ballot in Mississippi while similar bills were introduced or carried over in Indiana, Missouri, West Virginia and four other states this year.

Some animal-rights organizations say fears of outright hunting bans are unfounded.

The amendments “are largely an overreaction to efforts that seek to curb abusive or unsporting practices,” such as using dogs to corner and tree bears, or baiting animals with food, said Michael Markarian, chief program and policy officer at the Humane Society of the U.S. “Eliminating bear baiting doesn’t mean there’s no bear hunting.”

In Maine, a ballot proposal this fall would prohibit bear hunting with bait, dogs or traps.

In California, two laws tightening hunting restrictions were signed in the past two years: one banning bear and bobcat hunting with dogs, the other use of lead ammunition.

The second law is aimed at protecting condors and other wildlife that sometimes scavenge carrion with lead fragments in it.

And a lawsuit filed by conservation groups in North Carolina last year seeks to ban coyote hunting in a region of the state populated with endangered red wolves, which are sometimes mistaken for coyotes.

Data from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service show that hunting-license sales peaked in the early 1980s, then began to steadily decline. Researchers point to a variety of reasons, including urbanization, the shrinking availability of land for hunting and the rise of more-protective views toward wildlife.

However, the agency’s most recent national survey, conducted every five years, found that the number of hunters increased by 9% between 2006 and 2011.

Every 15 minutes – another elephant, gone forever

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Experts believe that 35,000 elephants were killed last year for their tusks, which are made into useless trinkets and decorations. That’’s one elephant killed every 15 minutes, on average.

Regional extinctions of elephants are a danger within the next decade if we don’t act now.

The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service has proposed strong new protections for elephants, including a ban on sales of non-antique ivory in the United States. But some special interest groups are trying to weaken the new rules.

We need to ensure that the rules protecting elephants stay as strong as possible.

Wildlife crime, including ivory trafficking, is increasingly linked to organized crime, militancy and destabilization in fragile democracies in Africa and around the world. The United States is part of the problem, with unenforceable regulation of our domestic ivory markets and a large amount of illegal ivory being smuggled past our borders each year.

The rest of the world is watching to see what actions we take. Just as several countries followed our ivory crush in Denver with similar efforts, these new rules could provide the momentum for a worldwide trade ban.

IFAW, in partnership with Dr. Jane Goodall, IFAW Honorary Board Member Leonardo DiCaprio, and a lineup of businesses, NGOs, and concerned individuals, has written an open letter to President Obama asking him to stay strong for elephants and implement the proposed rules without weakening them.

You can help save elephants. Ask President Obama and Dan Ashe, Director of the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service, to stand strong for elephants.

What’s the Motive?

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In response to this horrible crime scene photo, a Facebook friend innocently asked me, “What is the reason they do this?”

As I’ve said before, forget hunters’ feeble rationalizations. All I could tell her was: For fun? Sport? Hate? Intolerance? An overinflated sense of entitlement? Because they’re psychopaths?

Take your pick.

It seems there are a lot of reasons people can dream up to want to kill the wildlife their area is blessed with—especially if they already have their minds made up to be intolerant. Folks need to decide to accept their animal neighbors and adopt the old adage, “live and let live.”

While speculating on a murderer’s motive might make interesting tea time conversation, when it comes down to it, I don’t want to hear their justifications, their misguided notions, how they compartmentalize their killings or objectify their victims, I just want the behavior to end—one way or another.

 

 

Petition: Don’t Allow Wealthy Hunters to Poach Protected Birds

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Target: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif of Pakistan

Goal: Stop issuing special permits to wealthy hunters allowing them to poach endangered houbara bustard birds

The houbara bustard is a rare bird found in northern Africa and the Middle East. Each Spring the bustards migrate through Pakistan where for many decades Arab dignitaries and royalty have traveled to hunt them. The birds’ meat is highly sought after as an aphrodisiac. Although bustards are internationally protected Pakistani officials have been known to grant “special” permits to wealthy hunters. Conservationists say the bustards’ population is declining by as much as 29% every year largely because of poaching.

In January, 2014 Prince Fahd bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia went on safari in Pakistan. He and his hunting party were given permits to kill as many as 100 bustards in designated areas. But apparently that wasn’t enough for the Prince. A forest officer in Pakistan claims the Prince’s hunting party poached more than 2,100 bustards and traveled to protected areas including wildlife reserves to do so.

Although this represents an especially terrible violation of the law, permitting certain wealthy hunters to poach bustards has greatly contributed to the species’ decline. The birds face extinction if action is not taken to protect them. Call on the government of Pakistan to stop issuing hunting permits for endangered houbara bustards.

PETITION LETTER:

Dear Prime Minister Sharif,

Each year Arab dignitaries and royalty travel to regions of Pakistan to hunt rare houbara bustards. Poaching the birds for their prized meat has nearly driven them to extinction. Pakistani law forbids the hunting of bustards, but permits are occasionally issued to wealthy individuals. Such was the case with Prince Fahd bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia.

The Prince and his party were granted permits to hunt as many as 100 bustards in specially designated areas. But instead the Prince allegedly poached nearly 2,000 of the protected birds himself and hunted nearly two weeks on protected land. While the Prince broke the law and acted with contempt for the natural world it is likely his actions will go unpunished.

Wildlife experts say the houbara bustard’s population is shrinking by some 20-29% each and every year largely because of poaching. Issuing permits to dignitaries like the Prince makes a mockery of wildlife conservation laws and all but ensures the extinction of these endangered birds. I must insist that Pakistan end its practice of issuing permits to hunt the houbara bustard.

 Sign the Petition Here

Be Consistent—Support the Death Penalty for Trophy Hunters

I support the death penalty for serial killers, the type, like Ted Bundy, who acted out his fantasies of killing, mutilating, making trophies of and perhaps even eating parts of his innocent victims—just to boost his floundering self-esteem.

People like that have forfeited the right to enjoy nature’s beauty and be a part of this wondrous living planet. Bundy’s multiple escape record and subsequent violent recidivism proved that the only way to stop his ilk from killing and killing again is to humanely end their lives once and for all.

The same goes for the trophy hunter who enjoys killing elephants, giraffes, lions, elk, sheep or wolves with equal fervor. His (or her) bloodlust is never satisfied, even after they’ve committed a “Trifecta” of murders or crossed the “Big 5” African “game” species off their hit list.

Adding insult to injury, their grandiose egos compel them to broadcast their crimes across the internet, posing sadistically with their beautiful, rare, innocent victims while grinning psychopathically—showing off their vacuous viciousness. Like a serial killer who finds further fun in terrorizing their victims’ families from prison, trophy hunters get an added thrill from knowing that their grotesque, morbid, distressing photos victimize and terrorize still others who happen upon them.

The only way to rid the world of the menace of serial killers—whether their victims are human or non-man—is to execute them (as quickly and painlessly as possible, for we are not barbarians).

First, of course, we’ll have to change to laws to be consistent.

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